Dear All,

if you were there, thank you very much for attending. If you weren't,
don't despair: the practicum exercises and the presentations (both
sheets and actual talks) are online at

http://www.cs.rug.nl/~jurjen/DebPackaging
I won't change much there any more, unless somebody has suggestions.
And yes, I know browsing the presentations with Linux/Firefox sucks.
Mark Meinema is preparing a tube version. (Big thanks!)

Kind Regards,
Jurjen


Jurjen Bokma wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> better late than never: the schedule for the DebPackaging Colloquium.
>
> Tuesday October the 6th:
> 08:30 - 12:30, in 5431.0053, (Zernikebork, D. Smits Hall)
> Frank Brokken and George Danchev lecture on various aspects of Debian
> Package Construction.
> Lunch is served at 12:45 or thereabout.
> After lunch we have nothing planned. You may want to digest the lectures
> or prepare for the next day.
>
> Wednesday October the 7th:
> 09:00-12:30, in 5161.0216 (Bernoulliborg)
> Practicum. Create your first packages from a tutorial. Get help when
> running into trouble.
>
>
> Rest of the week:
> On Thursday evening, we plan to have dinner together somewhere in
> Groningen. And on Friday, Frank is going to show Schiermonnikoog to
> George. You are all very welcome to come along and chat some more. If
> you are planning to join us on either occasion, I would like to hear of
> those intentions by Monday 16:00 at the latest.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jurjen
>
>
>
>
> Jurjen Bokma wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> in preparation for next weeks DebPackaging colloquium you may want to
>> read up on a few subjects.
>>
>> I assume you are able to understand and modify shell scripts and
>> Makefiles. If not:
>> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/index.html
>> You are also supposed to be able to handle 'dpkg' and 'apt' well enough
>> to install and uninstall packages and to inspect their contents. If not,
>> check the manpages.
>>
>> Then the main course, the packaging itself. To get more out of contact
>> with the experts (which of course doesn't include me), you could take a
>> look at the following:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
>> and also
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
>> or even
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/index.en.html
>>
>> Because some exercises make use of version control, i.c. Subversion, you
>> would also benefit from understanding the Subversion terminology:
>> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/index.html
>>
>>
>> If you are aware of anyone who would like to attend but is not in the
>> recipient list of this message, please feel free to forward this
>> message. And notify me, or forward subsequent mail as well.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Jurjen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jurjen Bokma wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> the Debpackaging colloquium is hereby planned as previously announced:
>>> on the mornings of October the 6th and 7th. Times are not fixed yet.
>>> For the RuG employees: the appointment has been entered in your agendas.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Jurjen
>>>
>>>
>>> Jurjen Bokma wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> it is my pleasure to announce that there will be a short course in
>>>> DebPackaging this autumn. I would like to fix a date.
>>>> I found Frank Brokken willing to talk us through the theory, and we
>>>> decided to append a workshop to guide you through your first package
>>>> creation.
>>>> Frank has been creating Debian packages for years, and if schedules
>>>> permit, he will also invite a couple of actual Debian Developers. The
>>>> amount of packaging experience present will anyway be vastly larger than
>>>> initially announced. Because of that, I Cc'ed again even the people who
>>>> didn't respond to my initial request.
>>>> The dates I picked are:
>>>> Tuesday,  October the 6th 2009, 8:30-12:00 and
>>>> Wednesday October the 7th 2009, 8:30-12:000.
>>>> This way, we can have Franks favourite classroom on the first morning,
>>>> and a computer room with nine student PCs on the second.
>>>> The dates are tentative, but I would like to have fixed dates by the end
>>>> of the week. So here are my questions:
>>>> 1. Do you intend to follow the course?
>>>> 2. If so, can you attend on the above dates?
>>>> 3. Regardless of whether you can attend on the mentioned dates, please
>>>> indicate the dates and times in October that you absolutely cannot.
>>>> (Resolution is half a day.) For those who work at the RuG, this should
>>>> be done through the RuG agenda.
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Jurjen
>>>> Jurjen Bokma wrote:
>>>>> Heren,
>>>>>
>>>>> voor de LWP zullen t.z.t. .deb-pakketten moeten worden gemaakt. Ik had
>>>>> dat wel eens ad-hoc gedaan, maar ga nu eens uitzoeken hoe het eigenlijk
>>>>> hoort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Animo.
>>>>> Wie heeft er belangstelling voor een soort colloquium, zeg een middag in
>>>>> september waar ik dan moet uitleggen wat ik gevonden heb? Wie heeft er
>>>>> zo veel belangstelling dat hij ruimte openhoudt in zijn agenda? Let wel,
>>>>> ik ben geenszins de expert, maar ik heb de indruk dat jullie dat op dit
>>>>> terrein ook niet allemaal zijn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noodzaak.
>>>>> Is er iemand die wel serieus verstand heeft van deb-packaging, en is die
>>>>> eventueel bereid dat colloquium te geven, als er belangstelling is?
>>>>>
>>>>> Inhoud.
>>>>> Voor degenen die belangstelling hebben: wat weet je al, en wat wil je
>>>>> meer weten? Anatomie van packages, of van repositories? Keus van de
>>>>> toolchain? Details van een specifieke toolchain? DebHelper-scripts,
>>>>> PBuilder? Bepaalde aspecten? Policy compliance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Vorm.
>>>>> Praatje? Workshop?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eventuele reacties s.v.p. deze week nog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mvgr.
>>>>> Jurjen